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Favoriting January 30, 2023: Torie Bosch, editor, “You Are Not Expected to Understand This”

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Today: Torie Bosch, editor, “You Are Not Expected to Understand This”: How 26 Lines of Code Changed the World

“You Are Not Expected to Understand This”: How 26 Lines of Code Changed the World, edited by Torie Bosch, published by Princeton University Press (see also Indiebound)

“Bigfeet”, Torie Bosch’s short story in Slate, just published (Jan 28, 2023)

Play Spacewar, the classic PDP-1 game for two players

• Thanks to listener Sam for the pointer: Companies Already Have the Ability to Decode Your Brainwaves (Popular Mechanics, Jan 24, 2023), which points to this Davos presentation by Nita Farahany titled, “Ready for Brain Transparency?”

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  Torie Bosch, editor, “You Are Not Expected to Understand This”: How 26 Lines of Code Changed the World
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  Mark's intro      
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  Interview with Torie Bosch      
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Listener comments!

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Handy Haversack:

Hello, Mark and Techyons! Gotta get the monsters fed, but glad to be here with you!
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Will thee Sound Guy:

Hello Mark Hurst and all!!!
  6:00pm
David in London:

Evening Mark and all Technoids.
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ultradamno:

Mark! Techtonscrutables!

By the way, hell freezes over before I watch another Baz Luhrman movie.
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alan the painter:

yes yes hellO from down stream...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
Bas NL:

Hi Mark and web browsers!
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Webhamster Henry:

🤖!
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chresti:

Hi Mark and techtonicians!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:04pm
Webhamster Henry:

This may be relevant to today's topic: www.ioccc.org
Avatar 🤖 6:04pm
herb.nyc:

hola (i looked at BAZ wiki, and see he did THE GET DOWN with stephen adly guirgis. latter is great, i've seen 3 of his plays. BETWEEN RIVERSIDE AND CRAZY is so spot on nyc-centric)
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listener james from westwood:

Evening, Mark and all!
  6:06pm
gabe:

evening mark, love the show.
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Mark Hurst:

Hi all, thanks for joining! @gabe, thank you kindly
  6:08pm
Sam:

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:09pm
ultradamno:

twitter.com...
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Hi, Mark and Techtocrats! 26 lines of code and 26 letters in the alphabet. Coincidence?
Avatar 🤖 6:10pm
herb.nyc:

did mark say "global war"? yay, fun stuff.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:12pm
Webhamster Henry:

Most of my "failures" are hordes of library dependencies that need constant babysitting.
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herb.nyc:

out of curiosity, who here writes code as a job? or for fun? or for...

i wrote code in my WATFIV class in 1980. end.
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James Akers:

I write code- for fun- mainly to blink lights in interesting ways
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:16pm
Webhamster Henry:

"Will it run DOOM?" << the test of every CPU.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:17pm
Mi-rgod:

I develop code for my job and occasionally for other projects (almost like fun - at least for a good purpose i hope). Day job is software to help monitor and manage large battery arrays to make renewable energy more viable.
Avatar 🤖 6:18pm
herb.nyc:

code 1202 reminds me of marshak 1320, the office of my boss' boss.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:20pm
Mark Hurst:

Marshak, Mars Hack, Mars Shack
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herb.nyc:

i just checked, apollo 11 is 1969. ( was there a Radio Shack then?)
Avatar 🤖 6:23pm
herb.nyc:

ATMs. i remember when they were introduced. we were told "you'll save time, save money, by using them". now we get charged for using them
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:24pm
Dano59:

is 'I'm in yr base killing yr doods' covered?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:25pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ Dano59 @6:24
All your base are belong to us!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:25pm
Bas NL:

Got to mention the Queen of programming; Ada Lovelace. en.wikipedia.org...
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Webhamster Henry:

10 GOTO 10, Q.E.D.
-- Niklaus Wirth
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:26pm
Deano de los Muertos:

Very interesting show, Mark. My father might enjoy this book, as a former programmer
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:27pm
Mark Hurst:

@Deano thanks - yes this essay collection has something for everyone - lots of different perspectives
Avatar 🤖 6:28pm
herb.nyc:

from the 1940s, sooo film noir-ish!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:28pm
Webhamster Henry:

Here's a bunch of Ted Nelson material (archive.org) archive.org...
  6:29pm
yippie:

hyperlinks are like glass bead game
  6:30pm
Hugo:

Hermann Hesse, yeah
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Fuzzy:

I smell a Wumpus!
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Dano59:

... one of the many things wrong with Microsoft products
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Webhamster Henry:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:28
Ted Nelson's links were forced to be two-directional (links to origin, origin to link), whereas the Berners-Lee mode was one way.
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herb.nyc:

i'll man up, it was MY fault.
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Dano59:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:25
wow, my memory's fried (says one who remembers playing SpaceWar
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:33pm
Webhamster Henry:

Imperial measures is always wrong.
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herb.nyc:

come on, whose fault? it's like "who dya like better, yr mother or yr father?"
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The Butterman:

I had one of those VW’s.
  6:40pm
David in London:

Disagree Henry. Most are much more human-centric than the metric tyranny.
But that’s just me.
  6:41pm
Horn Dog:

Porn makes the internet better.
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PaulRobeson1923:

The internet is a bigger flop than the moving image.
  6:43pm
Hugo:

some of the diesel trucks make me gag, where is the filtration? Why is nobody doing anything about that?
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chresti:

↳ The Butterman @6:39
The Tisane?
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PaulRobeson1923:

2015 was the 1st year the WOlrd Health Organization came out and declared “ “Yes, diesel fumes do cause cancer”
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herb.nyc:

the fate of prog rock hangs in the balance (i'm sorry for posting stupid stuff. it's just so easy for me)
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Webhamster Henry:

↳ David in London @6:40
If I say something "weighs a ton", what that actually is depends on where you live. Not to be confused with a metric ton/ tonne.
  6:46pm
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↳ Webhamster Henry @6:28
A few days ago there was a tweet asking for famous or favorite Nelson's. I replied Ricky.
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ultradamno:

↳ Horn Dog @6:41
Well....along with everything.
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Handy Haversack:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:45
Then why does Jesus say "A pint's a pound the world around" in Numbers 1:16? Huh?
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chresti:

Very interesting, thanks Mark!
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PaulRobeson1923:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:46
Hi, Handy. The wine referenced in the bible is “mixed wine”
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herb.nyc:

(big feet - pee wee herman sees cowboy curtis putting on boots,and they're big boots. pee is in awe. cowboy curtis sez "ya know - big boots, big feet". haha
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Ike:

Microsoft Word was mentioned earlier. Tangent: Note that there are some free alternatives to Word, such as TextMaker!
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S_Rah:

what was the name of the woman who did the preface?
can't find her memoir on goodreads by the title
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Handy Haversack:

↳ PaulRobeson1923 @6:47
Not in my Bible, PR1923. Not in my Bible. I use the real one.
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Handy Haversack:

↳ S_Rah @6:48
Preface by Torie Bosch.
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chresti:

↳ ultradamno @6:46
So devices are engineered to and extract the contents of your brain?
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Webhamster Henry:

This COBOL-to-Python translator can help: www.ispirer.com...
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S_Rah:

thanks handy. no it was ellen somebody
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Handy Haversack:

↳ S_Rah @6:51
Intro by Elena Botella.
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S_Rah:

ty!!!!
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What about the Soutwest Airlines outdated scheduling system, ii's still paralyzed.
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herb.nyc:

"how the backstreet boys taught me to code" is on torie bosch's slate, something she wrote. cute title
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PaulRobeson1923:

IBM, New York, worked hand in hand with Nazi German. The punch card system- early computer technology made it possible to find 98% of all German Jews and those who might pose a future opposition


Any connection to VW cheating scandal! Ethics?
How they got started…
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The Butterman:

Sounds like someone doesn’t appreciate a clean house.
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chresti:

↳ chresti @6:50
I'm getting lost- so much information

Middle finger to roomba!
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biomurph:

perhaps you should do a show that takes a look at the open-source hardware movement? that would be super cool. super duper deep story. oshwa.org
  6:54pm
Hugo:

I stopped vacuuming my house!
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Handy Haversack:

I have been sitting here hoping there'd be a rant. I feel like we're close. Screeds and Jeremiads! That would be a good knuckles tattoo.

Thanks, Mark! And to Torie as well!
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PaulRobeson1923:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:49
Do u realize, that you have the most beautiful face? Do you realize
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Fredericks:

My vacuum has a light. No camera as far as I know.
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The Butterman:

Scan my dust, please. There’s good DNA in it.
  6:56pm
Hugo:

Use your brooms, people!
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Handy Haversack:

↳ biomurph @6:54
Did you hear this ep., biomurph? Pretty interesting: www.wfmu.org...
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Webhamster Henry:

↳ Hugo @6:54
I use an analog broom. I'm just a sorcerer's apprentice, what could go wrong?
  6:56pm
wenzo (listener #143834):

You have 16 fingers handy?
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Fuzzy:

Keep my Dirt Devil in a Ziploc bag. I'm safe.
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chresti:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:56
I think the porch cats have my number
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chresti:

↳ Fuzzy @6:57
Haha
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listener 126464:

Thanks Mark!
  6:58pm
Hugo:

good stuff, as always, thanks Mark
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Bas NL:

Thanks Mark and Torie!
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Webhamster Henry:

That was a diverting hour.
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chresti:

Thanks Mark!
  6:59pm
gabe:

thanks!
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PaulRobeson1923:

Thank you
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Handy Haversack:

↳ wenzo (listener #143834) @6:56
Among other numbers.
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Will thee Sound Guy:

thank you Mark and Torie!!!
  7:03pm
Abnorman Bates:

I avoid surveillance by not being important enough to survey<ironic> and am amazed that so many people are that important, they seem to think they are, so they really must be so, and not just unnoteworthy types who need to feel significant</ironic>.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:05pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ S_Rah @6:48
Ellen Ullman wrote the introduction.
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