WFMU: It's Complicated with Dave Mandl: Playlist from October 17, 2022

Listener comments!
	🤯 ♥ 6:47pm Snortley: Got Tull?
	🤯 ♥ 7:00pm Handy Haversack: Complications abound. Hello, extensive Scott and all the Proggers crossing the road to get here.
	7:00pm P-90: I’d just like everyone to know that I’ll be here weekly to answer questions about Prog. What it is and what it isn’t, where it comes from, how it works, etc.
	♥ 7:01pm Mr. Pumpy: Brain Salad Surgeons scrub up!
	🤯 ♥ 7:01pm chresti: old codger door knocker?
	♥ 7:01pm Webhamster Henry: It's Scottucated.
	♥ 7:01pm Aitch: Hello skeleton Scott, haven't heard you live for ages (time differences)
	7:02pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...H.R. Codger ?...
	♥ 7:02pm Jeff Moore: How much Tull will you be playing?
	♥ 7:02pm Mr. Pumpy: I can lend a hand. I have an advanced degree in prog...honorary or otherwise. PROG ON!
	♥ 7:02pm DanFA: Sheila B must be so excited.
	♥ 7:02pm joe mulligan: spot on, RR Nov63
	♥ 7:02pm listener 126464: Codger Salad Surgery
	♥ 7:02pm DanFA: Hahaha.
	🤯 ♥ 7:03pm Malcontent: YES!!! PROG ROCK!!!
	7:03pm Fredericks: @7:00 P-90: Does Traffic qualify as Prog?
	🤯 ♥ 7:03pm chresti: introduction to prog
	♥ 7:03pm melinda: I like the triumphalist background music
	♥ 7:03pm steveo: hi! I was trying to figure out the right wording for the obligatory comment board joke, but fortunately found the episode title first :)
	♥ 7:03pm joe mulligan: and prague
	🤯 ♥ 7:03pm chris in the redwoods: prog comes from dirty ashtrays
	♥ 7:03pm DanFA: Do we know what prog wants? Is there a way we can communicate with it?
	🤯 ♥ 7:03pm Will thee Sound Guy: Hi Scott Williams and all!!!
	🤯 ♥ 7:04pm dday: Steve Howe..Bodast
	♥ 7:04pm DanFA: An hour of prog music will consist of three songs
	7:04pm P-90: Tomorrow: a great choice for show #1
	7:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 'People called it Prog instead of Psychedelia cause they didn't wanna admit they were still taking drugs.' - MickFarren
	♥ 7:04pm Webhamster Henry: Gimme that Old Time Prog! www.youtube.com...
	♥ 7:04pm MarciB: This might be the greatest intro to any show, ever!
	🤯 ♥ 7:04pm SeaCreature: been sitting at home recording faux King Crimson music for the last year, so this is pretty exciting.
	♥ 7:04pm The Butterman: Nooooooooooooooooooo! Tulllllllllllll!
	7:05pm Jackie G: Tomorrow. Steve Howe. We love Steve Howe, cause he was/is in Yes.
	♥ 7:05pm melinda: I didn't realize Tull was prog, further proof that I need the prog tutorial of this show
	🤯 ♥ 7:05pm dday: 7th Wave Caravan Jade Warrior
	♥ 7:05pm nickybones: i'm so excited for this. #nerdalert
	🤯 ♥ 7:05pm SeaCreature: Passion play is pretty friggin prog
	🤯 ♥ 7:06pm dday: Bodast was pre Tomorrow/My White Bicycle
	♥ 7:06pm Kat in Chicago: I am prepared to prog
	♥ 7:07pm Webhamster Henry: If you play The Plastic People of the Universe, it might be Prague rock .
	♥ 7:07pm Mike From Brooklyn: Hi all! I wondered if this day would come. Jim Price will be happy. Didn't he call for more Tull when he was temporary PROGram Director?
	♥ 7:07pm MarciB: I can't stop marveling and laughing at the utter genius of this.
	♥ 7:07pm Jeff Moore: @melinda: Whether or not Tull is prog... there has to be some, because Jim Price is Watching.
	♥ 7:07pm Webhamster Henry: Get out your Prog Rock Bingo Cards! Children's voices? [x]
	🤯 ♥ 7:08pm dday: I Like the Emerson, Lake & Codger graphic :)
	7:08pm queems: i heard jethro tull so i’m here
	🤯 ♥ 7:08pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hello, I'm here for the Peer Review Oversight Group meeting. Am I in the right room?
	🤯 ♥ 7:08pm chresti: Yay Plastic People of the Universe!
	♥ 7:08pm Mr. Pumpy: As much as I respect Sheila, AND I DO, I'd hate to think any one person had to make WFMU a safe place for PROG. Free form radio...let's do this! Let us go to Canterbury and beyond...
	♥ 7:08pm Aitch: Prognosis was only an hour left to listen
	♥ 7:08pm Rich in Washington: "You're a naughty one... Saucy Jack!"
	7:08pm P-90: @Fredericks: great question! The answer: Traffic is not quite a “Prog band”, but like many bands, they are “proggy”, and there are some very prog elements in some of their songs.
	♥ 7:09pm Mr. Pumpy: The Steven Wilson Remix of JT's Aqualung is a thing of beauty. One of the best stereo remixes I've ever heard.
	♥ 7:09pm Jeff Moore: Emerson Lake & Codger's Oldfartkus album!
	🤯 ♥ 7:10pm Handy Haversack: I am hoping the Premium for this show is WFMU Prog Gorp. Let's hit the trails. And also see trails.
	♥ 7:11pm Rich in Washington: Fauster and louder!
	♥ 7:12pm Mr. Pumpy: Let's get into some Prog Gomp. We'll forgo the dried grapes for some desiccated mushrooms. Okay, fine, GORMP it is!
	🤯 ♥ 7:12pm Wendy del Formaggio: Scott Williams! On your radio tonight, and forever!
	♥ 7:12pm MarciB: Oh damn, just realized I need an icon! Off to pledge some proggy dollars to the greatest station in the world!
	♥ 7:12pm _Ike_: Scove Willindl?!?!?
	♥ 7:12pm JeremyB: Howdy Scott!
	♥ 7:12pm listener 126464: Yes Army has been notified.
	🤯 ♥ 7:12pm Ken From Hyde Park: "Jethro Tull is heavy metal," Grammy award people.
	🤯 ♥ 7:12pm Handy Haversack: Ken's Prog Detector must finally feel seen.
	🤯 ♥ 7:12pm SeaCreature: Bring the weed and dry ice fog
	🤯 ♥ 7:13pm dday: Triumvirat (Doug Fieger of the Knack once played bass for them)
	♥ 7:13pm Jeff Moore: I don't know why, but suddenly I'm craving Jeff Wayne's Musical Version of The War of the Worlds. ooooowaaah
	♥ 7:13pm Baja Joe: Hello Scott. This will be fun!
	7:14pm Jackie G: Is it? It is. Spacey Roxy in the background.
	♥ 7:14pm Mr. Pumpy: Handy, this Lindner's cider is going down nicely. I did grab some for you and K8, but the stock is running low!
	7:14pm P-90: Jethro Tull is totally a Prog band. One of the original blockbuster Prog bands in the days when Prog was quite “mainstream” in the Rock music world.
	7:14pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Actually think MoodyBlues are great example of the transition from Psych to Prawg. Always thot it was essentially when people started to take Rawk 'seriously' as (potential) Art. I guess that's not descriptive. Classical influences ~ aspirations. Concepts / Concept Albums (I've landed on the Medium Is the Massage here: The Concept was that Albums are Albums - a thing itself not just a collection of trax.) The Explorers' Room program on the Drummer stream has made explicit how far ahead Lounge & Exotica actuality were of Pop~Rawk in this... Then there is the hybridization of Jazz & Rawk - another way of bringing complexity, musical accomplishment & 'seriousness' into the Popular arena... & probly the beginning of thinking in terms of Fusions for most of us. I think Wynton Marsalis had a good point that historically - Rawk is a branch on the Jazz tree in fact. Endless things could be said about this... A Folk element - certainly a strong natural instinct (so to speak) in the UK one should think - another way some intricacy, musical technical ability - & a sense of deeper resonant Meaning can all come in...
	7:15pm ryansterlingvirtue: Can someone tell me what song the DJ was talking over a second ago? Really enjoying this show btw
	🤯 ♥ 7:15pm Handy Haversack: Ha, no worries, Mr. P! It's available in Brooklyn. I am drinking a Princess Mary's Pride Cocktail. Applejack, Dubonnet, dry vermouth 2:1:1. Pretty nice! And I assume Princess Mary is proud of me.
	7:16pm Jackie G: Oh lordy lord. What the deuce. C'mon, man. This Tongue in Cheek sounding good in my mind.
	7:16pm Peter from Boonton formerly Dover NJ: I for one am quite happy to have a prog program.
	🤯 ♥ 7:16pm Handy Haversack: ryan: Faust Extract 4 (aka Giggy Smile)
	🤯 ♥ 7:16pm chris in the redwoods: noodley organs for the prog win
	🤯 ♥ 7:16pm dday: Journey's first release was quite proggy & way different from what followed
	♥ 7:17pm HyperDose: This is spicy
	7:17pm Jackie G: That was Roxy Music. Egypt? Tara?
	🤯 ♥ 7:17pm SeaCreature: Is it Scott who plays that Cast Your Fate to the Wind, which was the transition song into Allison Steele, the Night Bird. Spooky! Oh and that was India by roxy music.
	🤯 ♥ 7:17pm chresti: Arthur Brown is crazy world prog.
	7:17pm Theo: DELICIOUS
	♥ 7:17pm listener 126464: Nice to read the word 'Dubonnet'.
	♥ 7:17pm Aitch: Shame not a longer show. A bit of Kraut-prog is fun, ie Birth Control etc
	7:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Audio Technology advancing thru the 1960s - especially @ the end of them into the 1970s - has to be a factor. Recording techniques - & electronic instruments.
	♥ 7:17pm Franco Twinkie: Kickin' it hard, Scott!
	7:17pm Panther: This is AMAZING!!!
	7:18pm TroyD8: Prog show! YES! :)
	♥ 7:18pm Mr. Pumpy: I know, Handy, but I got some off-label stuff which is cool. Either way. I was hoping gaming Saturday became a thing because I was ready to come out last week! With your cider...
	🤯 ♥ 7:18pm dday: Rod Argent went from Zombies, to "God giving R&R to You" to Nexus (prog)
	🤯 ♥ 7:18pm Handy Haversack: @ listener 126464: I'm almost out!
	7:18pm Jackie G: Oko. This Sugarloaf is a tasty treat for the ears.
	♥ 7:19pm ijustbcame: Greetings all!
	🤯 ♥ 7:19pm dday: @chresti: Arthur Brown was still actively performing as of 2021 (80 years young)
	♥ 7:19pm biomurph: [Said over an excessively loud sound system right into your ear/face] Hey Scott, I'm really enjoying your show, but I gotta jet. Stay cool.
	♥ 7:20pm Webhamster Henry: I was wondering how Dave could do only a 1 hour show of Prog Rock, but I guess if there are 7" tunes, it must be possible.
	♥ 7:20pm Jeff Moore: Not fun? I wouldn't accuse prog of being not fun! Maybe you could just possibly make a case for it being just a tiny bit self-obsessed, up its own bottom, high on its own supply... ...but the net result usually seemed to turn out fun (at least for me as a listener). Sometimes, though, events were tragically on the nose: After the Spartacus album, Helmut Köllen left Triumvirat to start a solo career. Two years later, he died of carbon monoxide poisoning when he was in his car, in the garage, listening to his own compositions on the car's cassette player.
	🤯 ♥ 7:20pm Handy Haversack: Maybe 10/29, Mr. P. We're coming to Montclair 10/30!
	7:21pm ryansterlingvirtue: Thanks Jackie and Handy. I meant the Roxy Song yes.
	🤯 ♥ 7:21pm chresti: 1hour of prog=about 6 tracks, right?
	🤯 ♥ 7:21pm dday: There was Camel (not Frampton's)
	♥ 7:22pm _Ike_: Daott Mandiams?
	🤯 ♥ 7:22pm Wendy del Formaggio: That he has included Bongwater in a prog show is not the only reason I love Scott Williams, but it's certainly one of them.
	7:22pm lazy pierogi: not sure what’s happening, but it sounds good!
	♥ 7:23pm Webhamster Henry: Prog Bingo: wacky time signature [x]
	♥ 7:23pm Mr. Pumpy: Oh she's proud of you! I caught Jonathan Richman this past Saturday at the church in Montclair I saw Richard Thompson play at before the pandemic. I'm seeing Beth Orton there on Thursday 11/3 and then the man himself, Richard Thompson, on January 14th, which is also a Saturday. Get tix! outpost.ticketleap.com...
	🤯 ♥ 7:23pm chresti: I love Bongwater
	7:23pm P-90: @dday: Zombies were early example of a proggy pop band. You also mentioned Journey, a later example of a proggy pop band. The difference is that bands like Journey and Toto intentionally blended prog elements into their pop songs AFTER the big initial British Prog wave. And we’re gonna have to talk about Heart at some point too…
	♥ 7:23pm Jeff Moore: I've met Ann Magnuson! She's so cool. I was only a little bit terrified.
	♥ 7:24pm melinda: I like Bongwater prog
	7:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Wigkey offers : ...' music approached the condition of "art", and the studio, rather than the stage, became the focus of musical activity, which often involved creating music for listening rather than dancing '... That's something I've always related to with it : enuff complexity it rewarded focused listening - & reveals more with repeated listening.
	♥ 7:24pm DanFA: Yes!
	♥ 7:24pm melinda: @Jeff cool!
	♥ 7:24pm Mr. Pumpy: Kate is in the club!
	♥ 7:24pm DanFA: I think we need to make a distinction between prog and progressive.
	♥ 7:25pm _Ike_: Dascove Willidlams?
	♥ 7:26pm Franco Twinkie: Real prog guys NEVER cut their hair!
	♥ 7:26pm Mr. Pumpy: Oh yeah...10/29! Come do it here 10/29 and stay over. Just an idea. I know, cats. But...Bagpipe is welcome.
	7:26pm Jackie G: FMU loves prog. Right? Kate Bush in a class all too herself. But if you want to play some Kate Bush I won't object
	♥ 7:26pm listener 126464: They always had the best stereo equipment.
	♥ 7:26pm McGroovey: Sounds Godliey+Creme+ish
	🤯 ♥ 7:26pm dday: Just thinking of bands I listened to in the early to mid 70's: Gentle Giant; Nektar; Curved Air (Eddie Jobson)
	7:27pm UncleMarty: Gentle Giant1 So much fluff, so little rhyme ...
	7:27pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Is JimiHendrix a Bluesman ? VanGogh an Impressionist ?
	7:27pm paddy: vocals remind me of Vaselines
	♥ 7:28pm Webhamster Henry: Prog bingo: Gnome voices [x]
	7:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Kahlo a Surrealist ?... PetSounds the first Prawg. :D
	♥ 7:28pm ijustbcame: 193 A Merman I would Turn to Be is prog!
	♥ 7:28pm Kat in Chicago: I was gonna go make dinner and then you put Robert Wyatt on
	7:28pm UncleMarty: ELO
	♥ 7:28pm joe mulligan: I met Kramer from Bongwater at the NYC CMJ back in 1989 or so. he had a cockatiel with him on his shoulder
	🤯 ♥ 7:29pm dday: Henry Cow
	7:29pm P-90: Gentle Giant might be the most (relatively) underrated/overlooked of the “original” wave of Brit Prog bands. Sold a loot of records in their day; hardly an obscure, niche act.
	🤯 ♥ 7:29pm Wendy del Formaggio: Neil Pye doing "Hole in My Shoe."
	7:29pm William Swan, Jr.: My favourite prog song is over fifteen minutes long. If they were all that long, you wouldn't be able to play four songs. It's Complicated should be a three-hour show.
	♥ 7:30pm _Ike_: Wait, if Ken was supposed to be doing this fill-in: Scokenve Weedmandl?
	7:30pm UncleMarty: Culminatng in King Crimson
	♥ 7:30pm ijustbcame: Cartoon - a band from '80s from Arizona was aquite weirt...is that what we're going for?
	🤯 ♥ 7:30pm dday: I saw Gentle Giant open for Edgar Winter (Frankenstein era) They could rock out when they felt like. You never really knew what they were going to do live
	♥ 7:30pm ijustbcame: Also Discus, from Indonesia.
	7:30pm JetBoy now of Astoria: Anyone else remember the show Pig Talk? Hasn’t been on WFMU in a while
	♥ 7:30pm joe mulligan: hahahaha @Wendy I remember watching that on Mtv during high school - Young Ones
	♥ 7:30pm Yetz: nice, i feel like i'm among friends
	♥ 7:31pm ijustbcame: Yets you are
	♥ 7:32pm _Ike_: @JetBoy, as once was written on some melons at a WFMU event: We Need More Bronwyns
	♥ 7:32pm Kat in Chicago: And then you played Ivor Cutler. I'm hungry.
	🤯 ♥ 7:32pm Wendy del Formaggio: Hey Joe Mulligan! I love love love The Young Ones. I also love Ivor Cutler.
	♥ 7:32pm Kat in Chicago: I miss Bronwyn C
	7:33pm Dutch_62: Ivor Cutler - let me count your buttons dear... i developed a taste gor nuclear waste.... hahaha...
	♥ 7:34pm Destroit: Well seems as if i’ve arrived to this party at the perfect time.
	♥ 7:34pm Mr. Pumpy: This is making me think of how into Steve Hackett's Voyage of the Acolyte a couple of friend's and I were. It was about a decade after it came out, but it was part of our way into the whole prog thing. I was only three when it came out, so I got into it in the early 80s. Sometime around Discipline and/or Three of a Perfect Pair.
	7:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: The narrative that Rick Wakeman taking a paint roller to his keys is why Punk happened. Never seemed like it to me. Prawg & Punk both Underground - other then commercial mainstream from where I sat. There's the Bowie - Eno - Iggy sort of connections. Prawg & NewWave actually having some perceived simpatico... So I'm intrigued by this distinction with ArtRawk. Punk is like dADa after all ...that's Art. TheRamones are exquisitely designed. Tho dADa aspired to be AntiArt... Among the Ideas that Prawg sometimes espoused were Social ones ...tho I can't think of much that was overtly Political ? The Collective seems a natural association... Various bands tried to live it as they conceived it...
	🤯 ♥ 7:34pm dday: PFM from Italy (Premiata Forneria Marconi)
	🤯 ♥ 7:35pm dday: @iJustbecame: I just read a page about Cartoon. They sound interesting
	♥ 7:35pm Yetz: RR1163: I thought it was Keith Emerson with his triple-deck keyboard rig
	7:35pm Jackie G: Detective Sean Duffy once raced to the airport in pursuit of a suspect. He made the trip in 8 minutes, and he said, "that's not quite a full length Yes track".
	♥ 7:35pm Franco Twinkie: When I was a teenager I worked in a hospital kitchen with a bunch of prog/stoners. One was obsessed with Gentle Giant. I had no idea what he was talking about. We found a middle ground and went to see Weather Report. They were so loud, blood came out of my ears.
	♥ 7:36pm _Ike_: We Need More Bronwyns: www.instagram.com...
	♥ 7:36pm Mr. Pumpy: dday - PFM are such a great band.
	7:37pm mic_a: I think I'll have to limit myself to listening to this show in the archives. It'll be the only way to prevent me from babbling on and on about the many prog classifications I had as a mid-teen. (I have this current song in my 7" box!)
	♥ 7:37pm Yetz: to me the most interesting prog is avant-prog - RIO type stuff - Henry Cow, Aksak Maboul, Art Zoyd, etc
	♥ 7:37pm ijustbcame: Anyone go to Progstock?
	♥ 7:38pm Mr. Pumpy: MAGMA, those folks are still at it. I've seen them several times, but only over the past 15 years or so. Still, so amazing!
	7:38pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: @Yetz: They use Wakeman doing that as a specific image in 'The Filth & the Fury' for instance. Tho I suppose ELP were~are spoken of more. Emerson stabbing keys with knives & such & their humor & aggression seems to me fairly in line with Punk in fact. Not to say ELP was never pretentious about knowing Classical music like no one else ever made or heard it...
	🤯 ♥ 7:38pm dday: To people my age, Prog was "alternative" to the pop or heavy metal bands that were on mainstream radio at the time (1970 - 1976 or so)
	7:39pm mic_a: @Rabbit 7:34 -- Yes! As a kid at the time, in the US at least, the 'enemy' that made punk necessary was California mellow rock -- The Eagles and their ilk.
	7:39pm Jackie G: why you say prawg?
	♥ 7:39pm ijustbcame: I'd like to see a show dedicated to prog from NJ.
	♥ 7:40pm Yetz: i'm pretty psyched to find out this program exists
	7:40pm JetBoy now of Astoria: To think before I didn’t like Tull or Yes - but together I don’t mind them. I can get thru them twice as fast.
	🤯 ♥ 7:40pm dday: Spocks Beard
	🤯 ♥ 7:41pm Handy Haversack: You have to get used to saying you're pretty progged, Yetz.
	7:41pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yet 7:37 - Avant is a good term. That stuff always seemed @ least cousins with Punk ?
	7:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: *Yetz 7:37
	♥ 7:42pm Kat in Chicago: I still love Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
	♥ 7:43pm ijustbcame: Zappa & the Mothers - We're only In It For The Money is Avant/RIO. Love that too.
	♥ 7:43pm Scott Williams: Y'all can definitely count on Dave Mandl to hit your RIO / ReR / Cutlerized Frithy Euro prog. I'm trying to do a 7" prog hour, highly limiting I'm afraid!
	7:43pm P-90: @Kat: Lamb is a brilliant work and one of the all-time original Prog classics
	7:43pm djsheilab: Woah…this cover! Brilliant.
	♥ 7:44pm Yetz: HH: Indeed!
	7:44pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Still barely begun to know the early Genesis. (How did that happen? Or not happen.) So far ...seems to me like a KingCrimson that hasn't reached puberty yet. Mothers were dADa all day long.
	♥ 7:44pm ijustbcame: There are so many prog nerds here, it's hard to keep up with the converstaion.
	♥ 7:44pm Scott Williams: Hiya Sheila! Can't believe I had to hit the dump button on a Genesis tune!
	♥ 7:44pm Yetz: Scott - I'm really enjoying it, this is a lot of stuff I've never heard before, thanks!
	🤯 ♥ 7:45pm dday: Between 1973 & 76 I saw Genesis a bunch of times. People can slag Phil Collins all they want BUT he was an incredible drummer
	♥ 7:45pm Yetz: didn't realize the 7" theme was going all week
	♥ 7:46pm Yetz: dday: Phil Collins is on one of my all time favorite records, Eno's "Another Green World"
	7:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Phil in fact belongs glued to a drumstool imho.
	7:46pm Dutch_62: Bazinga
	🤯 ♥ 7:47pm SeaCreature: Used to see RAEL spray painted in places and thought is there some metal reference I’m not aware of. Didn’t seem very Genesis to be tagging walls.
	🤯 ♥ 7:47pm dday: Zappa whole concept of Project / Object (all of his music being able to be arranged in endless combinations) is pretty proggy
	7:48pm P-90: Aloha @DJ Sheila B!
	🤯 ♥ 7:48pm ultradamno: Had to step away from the radio for a bit, how much Univers Zero did I miss?
	7:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I don't really have 'guilty pleasures' - but I think 'Brain Salad Surgery' is magnificent.
	7:49pm Dutch_62: Me sleepy.... 🥱..•●☆ weltrusten...
	7:50pm Jackie G: this song sounds like prog rock so I guess it must be prog rock.
	🤯 ♥ 7:50pm dday: @Yetz: Yessir. Last winter I listened top all things Eno (including collaborations & productions) I'll do it again soon
	♥ 7:51pm Franco Twinkie: For someone who wasn't really prog, Zappa was WAY prog. The MOI kicked all kinds of ass.
	♥ 7:51pm Mr. Pumpy: Anyone else used to get into that really early recording of Porcupine Tree at Shephard's Bush Empire from 2001? It was recorded through the board and it got around for a while. Insane production and playing!!! SO GOOD! Find it...here's the details: www.concertarchives.org...
	7:51pm Jackie G: when the band sings about the sun or sunshine chances are it's prog rock
	7:51pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Called Mothers for a reason. Yessir.
	♥ 7:52pm ijustbcame: Okay, somehow you're back to side 2 of TOTS, which is a double album
	♥ 7:52pm Mr. Pumpy: Fripp and Hall = YES! I love their output.
	♥ 7:52pm ijustbcame: Isn't A Passion Play a single album?
	7:53pm Jackie G: Eno's new album is b o r i n g.
	♥ 7:53pm Yetz: Jackie G: Or it's the Beatles
	♥ 7:54pm McGroovey: Darryl is sounding a bit off-center
	7:54pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Or it's SunshinePop ...actually.
	♥ 7:54pm coelacanth∅: if this prog show's going to fly there should be an average of 4-5 songs/show, no more
	7:55pm Jackie G: Adrian Belew is NOT b o r i n g.
	🤯 ♥ 7:55pm dday: Funny that RCA refused to release Hall's Sacred Songs disc until 3 years after it's creation. I think it's one of his best
	🤯 ♥ 7:55pm Will thee Sound Guy: Thank you for kicking off the Prog Scott!!!
	7:55pm djsheilab: This show is a triumph! Thanks Scott W.!
	🤯 ♥ 7:55pm chris in the redwoods: very fun. thanks, Scott!
	♥ 7:55pm Yetz: www.progarchives.com... 76% of people on ProgArchives think Zappa is Prog but they are wrong. I agree with the minority who say "Zappa was progressive, but not a prog artist.". That is the correct understanding.
	♥ 7:55pm Mr. Pumpy: HEARTBEAT! I saw this band at Town Hall. So amazing. Great show, Scott. thank you!!!!
	🤯 ♥ 7:56pm dday: I like that new track with Belew & Rundgren (called Puzzle)
	7:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Someone said Belew is 'vertical' & Fripp is 'horizontal' ...well, yeah.
	♥ 7:56pm Yetz: (just like you can have a punk-inspired attitude, but not work in the domain of punk music)
	♥ 7:56pm Aitch: Not prog per se, but still odd, Rundgren's new album, all collabs
	♥ 7:56pm _Ike_: Kavett Mandreeams?
	♥ 7:56pm Destroit: This show was pretty great
	♥ 7:56pm coelacanth∅: and Manzinera is diagonal
	♥ 7:57pm coelacanth∅: (sp)
	♥ 7:57pm Scott Williams: Yow, 1 hour sure do fly - thanks for indulging me, everyone! Dave Mandl takes over proper 1 week from tonight
	🤯 ♥ 7:57pm dday: @Aitch: yes. Like White Knight. I don't think there will ever be a totallt Tood disc anytime soon if it all. He's into working with others
	♥ 7:57pm Rich in Washington: I need to revisit Beat.
	♥ 7:57pm Rich in Washington: Thanks for a groovy show, Scott!
	♥ 7:57pm HyperDose: Thanks for drawing first prog blood, Scott!
	7:58pm P-90: Thanks @Scott!
	♥ 7:58pm Yetz: xclnt
	7:58pm TroyD8: Thanks Scott!
	🤯 ♥ 7:58pm chresti: Thanks Scott!
	7:58pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Zappa checks all the categorical Prawg boxes. Complexity, accomplishment, Fusions, aspiring to Progress the RawkaRollas, Concepts ...but he's cynical & funny.
	♥ 7:58pm Aitch: Great, Scott
	♥ 7:58pm DjLorraine: Thanks Scott
	♥ 7:58pm listener 126464: Thanks Scott!
	🤯 ♥ 7:58pm Handy Haversack: I feel like we really moved forward. Thanks, Scott!
	♥ 7:59pm ijustbcame: This showwas great!
	7:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ SW ~ MMMAAANNNDDDLLL
	7:59pm Will: We need this new show to be three hours, twice a week (OK, once).
	🤯 ♥ 7:59pm SeaCreature: And now we will pay for that awesomeness
	♥ 8:00pm coelacanth∅: Kate "Prog" Bush!
	♥ 8:00pm Webhamster Henry: Well, I never got "Recorder Solo [x]", so no BINGO for me this week.
	7:32pm Dr. Herndoctor: What’s the difference between Prog and Fusion? Like is Mahavishnu Fusion or Prog? Sorry for my lame question, thanks for any clarification!

It's Complicated with Dave Mandl: Playlist from October 17, 2022

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October 17, 2022: Scott Williams Complicates Things Further

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
Keith West	Excerpt From "A Teenage Opera" (Grocer Jack)	7"	New Voice Records	1967		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Faust	Extract 4 (aka Giggy Smile)	16 Dance Party Smash Hits: Rē & Recommended Records' Anniversary 7 Year 7" Set	Rē & Recommended Records		thanks Ken, a real prog collector!	0:09:33 (Pop-up)
Sugarloaf	Tongue in Cheek "Tongue in Cheek" by "Sugarloaf"	Green-Eyed Lady 7"	UA	1971		0:14:21 (Pop-up)
Bongwater	Why Are We Sleeping? "Why Are We Sleeping?" by "Bongwater"	Chemical Imbalance #7 7" (V/a)	Chemical Imbalance	1990	cover: Soft Machine	0:18:38 (Pop-up)
Rick Wakeman	I'm So Straight I'm a Weirdo	7"	A & M	1980		0:24:38 (Pop-up)
Robert Wyatt	Pigs... (In There) "Pigs... (In There)" by "Robert Wyatt"	EPs	Hannibal			0:27:51 (Pop-up)
Vogel (featuring Ivor Cutler)	Good Morning	16 Dance Party Smash Hits: Rē & Recommended Records' Anniversary 7 Year 7" Set	Rē & Recommended Records			0:30:30 (Pop-up)
Mike Oldfield & David Bedford	Don Alfonso	7"	Virgin	1975		0:35:46 (Pop-up)
Reservoir	Back in N.Y.C. "Back in N.Y.C." by "Reservoir"	7"	Zero Hour	1997	Genesis cover	0:41:29 (Pop-up)
neskoóhAt	Son of the Sun "Son of the Sun" by "neskoóhAt"	(from) the sky 7"	Symbolic Capital Records	2011		0:46:13 (Pop-up)
Darryl Hall & Robert Fripp	Something In 4/4 Time	Sacred Songs 7"	RCA	1980		0:56:36 (Pop-up)
King Crimson	Heartbeat "Heartbeat" by "King Crimson"	7"	EG	1982		0:56:38 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🤯 ♥ 6:47pm Snortley: Got Tull?
	🤯 ♥ 7:00pm Handy Haversack: Complications abound. Hello, extensive Scott and all the Proggers crossing the road to get here.
	7:00pm P-90: I’d just like everyone to know that I’ll be here weekly to answer questions about Prog. What it is and what it isn’t, where it comes from, how it works, etc.
	♥ 7:01pm Mr. Pumpy: Brain Salad Surgeons scrub up!
	🤯 ♥ 7:01pm chresti: old codger door knocker?
	♥ 7:01pm Webhamster Henry: It's Scottucated.
	♥ 7:01pm Aitch: Hello skeleton Scott, haven't heard you live for ages (time differences)
	7:02pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...H.R. Codger ?...
	♥ 7:02pm Jeff Moore: How much Tull will you be playing?
	♥ 7:02pm Mr. Pumpy: I can lend a hand. I have an advanced degree in prog...honorary or otherwise. PROG ON!
	♥ 7:02pm DanFA: Sheila B must be so excited.
	♥ 7:02pm joe mulligan: spot on, RR Nov63
	♥ 7:02pm listener 126464: Codger Salad Surgery
	♥ 7:02pm DanFA: Hahaha.
	🤯 ♥ 7:03pm Malcontent: YES!!! PROG ROCK!!!
	7:03pm Fredericks: @7:00 P-90: Does Traffic qualify as Prog?
	🤯 ♥ 7:03pm chresti: introduction to prog
	♥ 7:03pm melinda: I like the triumphalist background music
	♥ 7:03pm steveo: hi! I was trying to figure out the right wording for the obligatory comment board joke, but fortunately found the episode title first :)
	♥ 7:03pm joe mulligan: and prague
	🤯 ♥ 7:03pm chris in the redwoods: prog comes from dirty ashtrays
	♥ 7:03pm DanFA: Do we know what prog wants? Is there a way we can communicate with it?
	🤯 ♥ 7:03pm Will thee Sound Guy: Hi Scott Williams and all!!!
	🤯 ♥ 7:04pm dday: Steve Howe..Bodast
	♥ 7:04pm DanFA: An hour of prog music will consist of three songs
	7:04pm P-90: Tomorrow: a great choice for show #1
	7:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 'People called it Prog instead of Psychedelia cause they didn't wanna admit they were still taking drugs.' - MickFarren
	♥ 7:04pm Webhamster Henry: Gimme that Old Time Prog! www.youtube.com...
	♥ 7:04pm MarciB: This might be the greatest intro to any show, ever!
	🤯 ♥ 7:04pm SeaCreature: been sitting at home recording faux King Crimson music for the last year, so this is pretty exciting.
	♥ 7:04pm The Butterman: Nooooooooooooooooooo! Tulllllllllllll!
	7:05pm Jackie G: Tomorrow. Steve Howe. We love Steve Howe, cause he was/is in Yes.
	♥ 7:05pm melinda: I didn't realize Tull was prog, further proof that I need the prog tutorial of this show
	🤯 ♥ 7:05pm dday: 7th Wave Caravan Jade Warrior
	♥ 7:05pm nickybones: i'm so excited for this. #nerdalert
	🤯 ♥ 7:05pm SeaCreature: Passion play is pretty friggin prog
	🤯 ♥ 7:06pm dday: Bodast was pre Tomorrow/My White Bicycle
	♥ 7:06pm Kat in Chicago: I am prepared to prog
	♥ 7:07pm Webhamster Henry: If you play The Plastic People of the Universe, it might be Prague rock .
	♥ 7:07pm Mike From Brooklyn: Hi all! I wondered if this day would come. Jim Price will be happy. Didn't he call for more Tull when he was temporary PROGram Director?
	♥ 7:07pm MarciB: I can't stop marveling and laughing at the utter genius of this.
	♥ 7:07pm Jeff Moore: @melinda: Whether or not Tull is prog... there has to be some, because Jim Price is Watching.
	♥ 7:07pm Webhamster Henry: Get out your Prog Rock Bingo Cards! Children's voices? [x]
	🤯 ♥ 7:08pm dday: I Like the Emerson, Lake & Codger graphic :)
	7:08pm queems: i heard jethro tull so i’m here
	🤯 ♥ 7:08pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hello, I'm here for the Peer Review Oversight Group meeting. Am I in the right room?
	🤯 ♥ 7:08pm chresti: Yay Plastic People of the Universe!
	♥ 7:08pm Mr. Pumpy: As much as I respect Sheila, AND I DO, I'd hate to think any one person had to make WFMU a safe place for PROG. Free form radio...let's do this! Let us go to Canterbury and beyond...
	♥ 7:08pm Aitch: Prognosis was only an hour left to listen
	♥ 7:08pm Rich in Washington: "You're a naughty one... Saucy Jack!"
	7:08pm P-90: @Fredericks: great question! The answer: Traffic is not quite a “Prog band”, but like many bands, they are “proggy”, and there are some very prog elements in some of their songs.
	♥ 7:09pm Mr. Pumpy: The Steven Wilson Remix of JT's Aqualung is a thing of beauty. One of the best stereo remixes I've ever heard.
	♥ 7:09pm Jeff Moore: Emerson Lake & Codger's Oldfartkus album!
	🤯 ♥ 7:10pm Handy Haversack: I am hoping the Premium for this show is WFMU Prog Gorp. Let's hit the trails. And also see trails.
	♥ 7:11pm Rich in Washington: Fauster and louder!
	♥ 7:12pm Mr. Pumpy: Let's get into some Prog Gomp. We'll forgo the dried grapes for some desiccated mushrooms. Okay, fine, GORMP it is!
	🤯 ♥ 7:12pm Wendy del Formaggio: Scott Williams! On your radio tonight, and forever!
	♥ 7:12pm MarciB: Oh damn, just realized I need an icon! Off to pledge some proggy dollars to the greatest station in the world!
	♥ 7:12pm _Ike_: Scove Willindl?!?!?
	♥ 7:12pm JeremyB: Howdy Scott!
	♥ 7:12pm listener 126464: Yes Army has been notified.
	🤯 ♥ 7:12pm Ken From Hyde Park: "Jethro Tull is heavy metal," Grammy award people.
	🤯 ♥ 7:12pm Handy Haversack: Ken's Prog Detector must finally feel seen.
	🤯 ♥ 7:12pm SeaCreature: Bring the weed and dry ice fog
	🤯 ♥ 7:13pm dday: Triumvirat (Doug Fieger of the Knack once played bass for them)
	♥ 7:13pm Jeff Moore: I don't know why, but suddenly I'm craving Jeff Wayne's Musical Version of The War of the Worlds. ooooowaaah
	♥ 7:13pm Baja Joe: Hello Scott. This will be fun!
	7:14pm Jackie G: Is it? It is. Spacey Roxy in the background.
	♥ 7:14pm Mr. Pumpy: Handy, this Lindner's cider is going down nicely. I did grab some for you and K8, but the stock is running low!
	7:14pm P-90: Jethro Tull is totally a Prog band. One of the original blockbuster Prog bands in the days when Prog was quite “mainstream” in the Rock music world.
	7:14pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Actually think MoodyBlues are great example of the transition from Psych to Prawg. Always thot it was essentially when people started to take Rawk 'seriously' as (potential) Art. I guess that's not descriptive. Classical influences ~ aspirations. Concepts / Concept Albums (I've landed on the Medium Is the Massage here: The Concept was that Albums are Albums - a thing itself not just a collection of trax.) The Explorers' Room program on the Drummer stream has made explicit how far ahead Lounge & Exotica actuality were of Pop~Rawk in this... Then there is the hybridization of Jazz & Rawk - another way of bringing complexity, musical accomplishment & 'seriousness' into the Popular arena... & probly the beginning of thinking in terms of Fusions for most of us. I think Wynton Marsalis had a good point that historically - Rawk is a branch on the Jazz tree in fact. Endless things could be said about this... A Folk element - certainly a strong natural instinct (so to speak) in the UK one should think - another way some intricacy, musical technical ability - & a sense of deeper resonant Meaning can all come in...
	7:15pm ryansterlingvirtue: Can someone tell me what song the DJ was talking over a second ago? Really enjoying this show btw
	🤯 ♥ 7:15pm Handy Haversack: Ha, no worries, Mr. P! It's available in Brooklyn. I am drinking a Princess Mary's Pride Cocktail. Applejack, Dubonnet, dry vermouth 2:1:1. Pretty nice! And I assume Princess Mary is proud of me.
	7:16pm Jackie G: Oh lordy lord. What the deuce. C'mon, man. This Tongue in Cheek sounding good in my mind.
	7:16pm Peter from Boonton formerly Dover NJ: I for one am quite happy to have a prog program.
	🤯 ♥ 7:16pm Handy Haversack: ryan: Faust Extract 4 (aka Giggy Smile)
	🤯 ♥ 7:16pm chris in the redwoods: noodley organs for the prog win
	🤯 ♥ 7:16pm dday: Journey's first release was quite proggy & way different from what followed
	♥ 7:17pm HyperDose: This is spicy
	7:17pm Jackie G: That was Roxy Music. Egypt? Tara?
	🤯 ♥ 7:17pm SeaCreature: Is it Scott who plays that Cast Your Fate to the Wind, which was the transition song into Allison Steele, the Night Bird. Spooky! Oh and that was India by roxy music.
	🤯 ♥ 7:17pm chresti: Arthur Brown is crazy world prog.
	7:17pm Theo: DELICIOUS
	♥ 7:17pm listener 126464: Nice to read the word 'Dubonnet'.
	♥ 7:17pm Aitch: Shame not a longer show. A bit of Kraut-prog is fun, ie Birth Control etc
	7:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Audio Technology advancing thru the 1960s - especially @ the end of them into the 1970s - has to be a factor. Recording techniques - & electronic instruments.
	♥ 7:17pm Franco Twinkie: Kickin' it hard, Scott!
	7:17pm Panther: This is AMAZING!!!
	7:18pm TroyD8: Prog show! YES! :)
	♥ 7:18pm Mr. Pumpy: I know, Handy, but I got some off-label stuff which is cool. Either way. I was hoping gaming Saturday became a thing because I was ready to come out last week! With your cider...
	🤯 ♥ 7:18pm dday: Rod Argent went from Zombies, to "God giving R&R to You" to Nexus (prog)
	🤯 ♥ 7:18pm Handy Haversack: @ listener 126464: I'm almost out!
	7:18pm Jackie G: Oko. This Sugarloaf is a tasty treat for the ears.
	♥ 7:19pm ijustbcame: Greetings all!
	🤯 ♥ 7:19pm dday: @chresti: Arthur Brown was still actively performing as of 2021 (80 years young)
	♥ 7:19pm biomurph: [Said over an excessively loud sound system right into your ear/face] Hey Scott, I'm really enjoying your show, but I gotta jet. Stay cool.
	♥ 7:20pm Webhamster Henry: I was wondering how Dave could do only a 1 hour show of Prog Rock, but I guess if there are 7" tunes, it must be possible.
	♥ 7:20pm Jeff Moore: Not fun? I wouldn't accuse prog of being not fun! Maybe you could just possibly make a case for it being just a tiny bit self-obsessed, up its own bottom, high on its own supply... ...but the net result usually seemed to turn out fun (at least for me as a listener). Sometimes, though, events were tragically on the nose: After the Spartacus album, Helmut Köllen left Triumvirat to start a solo career. Two years later, he died of carbon monoxide poisoning when he was in his car, in the garage, listening to his own compositions on the car's cassette player.
	🤯 ♥ 7:20pm Handy Haversack: Maybe 10/29, Mr. P. We're coming to Montclair 10/30!
	7:21pm ryansterlingvirtue: Thanks Jackie and Handy. I meant the Roxy Song yes.
	🤯 ♥ 7:21pm chresti: 1hour of prog=about 6 tracks, right?
	🤯 ♥ 7:21pm dday: There was Camel (not Frampton's)
	♥ 7:22pm _Ike_: Daott Mandiams?
	🤯 ♥ 7:22pm Wendy del Formaggio: That he has included Bongwater in a prog show is not the only reason I love Scott Williams, but it's certainly one of them.
	7:22pm lazy pierogi: not sure what’s happening, but it sounds good!
	♥ 7:23pm Webhamster Henry: Prog Bingo: wacky time signature [x]
	♥ 7:23pm Mr. Pumpy: Oh she's proud of you! I caught Jonathan Richman this past Saturday at the church in Montclair I saw Richard Thompson play at before the pandemic. I'm seeing Beth Orton there on Thursday 11/3 and then the man himself, Richard Thompson, on January 14th, which is also a Saturday. Get tix! outpost.ticketleap.com...
	🤯 ♥ 7:23pm chresti: I love Bongwater
	7:23pm P-90: @dday: Zombies were early example of a proggy pop band. You also mentioned Journey, a later example of a proggy pop band. The difference is that bands like Journey and Toto intentionally blended prog elements into their pop songs AFTER the big initial British Prog wave. And we’re gonna have to talk about Heart at some point too…
	♥ 7:23pm Jeff Moore: I've met Ann Magnuson! She's so cool. I was only a little bit terrified.
	♥ 7:24pm melinda: I like Bongwater prog
	7:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Wigkey offers : ...' music approached the condition of "art", and the studio, rather than the stage, became the focus of musical activity, which often involved creating music for listening rather than dancing '... That's something I've always related to with it : enuff complexity it rewarded focused listening - & reveals more with repeated listening.
	♥ 7:24pm DanFA: Yes!
	♥ 7:24pm melinda: @Jeff cool!
	♥ 7:24pm Mr. Pumpy: Kate is in the club!
	♥ 7:24pm DanFA: I think we need to make a distinction between prog and progressive.
	♥ 7:25pm _Ike_: Dascove Willidlams?
	♥ 7:26pm Franco Twinkie: Real prog guys NEVER cut their hair!
	♥ 7:26pm Mr. Pumpy: Oh yeah...10/29! Come do it here 10/29 and stay over. Just an idea. I know, cats. But...Bagpipe is welcome.
	7:26pm Jackie G: FMU loves prog. Right? Kate Bush in a class all too herself. But if you want to play some Kate Bush I won't object
	♥ 7:26pm listener 126464: They always had the best stereo equipment.
	♥ 7:26pm McGroovey: Sounds Godliey+Creme+ish
	🤯 ♥ 7:26pm dday: Just thinking of bands I listened to in the early to mid 70's: Gentle Giant; Nektar; Curved Air (Eddie Jobson)
	7:27pm UncleMarty: Gentle Giant1 So much fluff, so little rhyme ...
	7:27pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Is JimiHendrix a Bluesman ? VanGogh an Impressionist ?
	7:27pm paddy: vocals remind me of Vaselines
	♥ 7:28pm Webhamster Henry: Prog bingo: Gnome voices [x]
	7:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Kahlo a Surrealist ?... PetSounds the first Prawg. :D
	♥ 7:28pm ijustbcame: 193 A Merman I would Turn to Be is prog!
	♥ 7:28pm Kat in Chicago: I was gonna go make dinner and then you put Robert Wyatt on
	7:28pm UncleMarty: ELO
	♥ 7:28pm joe mulligan: I met Kramer from Bongwater at the NYC CMJ back in 1989 or so. he had a cockatiel with him on his shoulder
	🤯 ♥ 7:29pm dday: Henry Cow
	7:29pm P-90: Gentle Giant might be the most (relatively) underrated/overlooked of the “original” wave of Brit Prog bands. Sold a loot of records in their day; hardly an obscure, niche act.
	🤯 ♥ 7:29pm Wendy del Formaggio: Neil Pye doing "Hole in My Shoe."
	7:29pm William Swan, Jr.: My favourite prog song is over fifteen minutes long. If they were all that long, you wouldn't be able to play four songs. It's Complicated should be a three-hour show.
	♥ 7:30pm _Ike_: Wait, if Ken was supposed to be doing this fill-in: Scokenve Weedmandl?
	7:30pm UncleMarty: Culminatng in King Crimson
	♥ 7:30pm ijustbcame: Cartoon - a band from '80s from Arizona was aquite weirt...is that what we're going for?
	🤯 ♥ 7:30pm dday: I saw Gentle Giant open for Edgar Winter (Frankenstein era) They could rock out when they felt like. You never really knew what they were going to do live
	♥ 7:30pm ijustbcame: Also Discus, from Indonesia.
	7:30pm JetBoy now of Astoria: Anyone else remember the show Pig Talk? Hasn’t been on WFMU in a while
	♥ 7:30pm joe mulligan: hahahaha @Wendy I remember watching that on Mtv during high school - Young Ones
	♥ 7:30pm Yetz: nice, i feel like i'm among friends
	♥ 7:31pm ijustbcame: Yets you are
	♥ 7:32pm _Ike_: @JetBoy, as once was written on some melons at a WFMU event: We Need More Bronwyns
	♥ 7:32pm Kat in Chicago: And then you played Ivor Cutler. I'm hungry.
	🤯 ♥ 7:32pm Wendy del Formaggio: Hey Joe Mulligan! I love love love The Young Ones. I also love Ivor Cutler.
	♥ 7:32pm Kat in Chicago: I miss Bronwyn C
	7:33pm Dutch_62: Ivor Cutler - let me count your buttons dear... i developed a taste gor nuclear waste.... hahaha...
	♥ 7:34pm Destroit: Well seems as if i’ve arrived to this party at the perfect time.
	♥ 7:34pm Mr. Pumpy: This is making me think of how into Steve Hackett's Voyage of the Acolyte a couple of friend's and I were. It was about a decade after it came out, but it was part of our way into the whole prog thing. I was only three when it came out, so I got into it in the early 80s. Sometime around Discipline and/or Three of a Perfect Pair.
	7:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: The narrative that Rick Wakeman taking a paint roller to his keys is why Punk happened. Never seemed like it to me. Prawg & Punk both Underground - other then commercial mainstream from where I sat. There's the Bowie - Eno - Iggy sort of connections. Prawg & NewWave actually having some perceived simpatico... So I'm intrigued by this distinction with ArtRawk. Punk is like dADa after all ...that's Art. TheRamones are exquisitely designed. Tho dADa aspired to be AntiArt... Among the Ideas that Prawg sometimes espoused were Social ones ...tho I can't think of much that was overtly Political ? The Collective seems a natural association... Various bands tried to live it as they conceived it...
	🤯 ♥ 7:34pm dday: PFM from Italy (Premiata Forneria Marconi)
	🤯 ♥ 7:35pm dday: @iJustbecame: I just read a page about Cartoon. They sound interesting
	♥ 7:35pm Yetz: RR1163: I thought it was Keith Emerson with his triple-deck keyboard rig
	7:35pm Jackie G: Detective Sean Duffy once raced to the airport in pursuit of a suspect. He made the trip in 8 minutes, and he said, "that's not quite a full length Yes track".
	♥ 7:35pm Franco Twinkie: When I was a teenager I worked in a hospital kitchen with a bunch of prog/stoners. One was obsessed with Gentle Giant. I had no idea what he was talking about. We found a middle ground and went to see Weather Report. They were so loud, blood came out of my ears.
	♥ 7:36pm _Ike_: We Need More Bronwyns: www.instagram.com...
	♥ 7:36pm Mr. Pumpy: dday - PFM are such a great band.
	7:37pm mic_a: I think I'll have to limit myself to listening to this show in the archives. It'll be the only way to prevent me from babbling on and on about the many prog classifications I had as a mid-teen. (I have this current song in my 7" box!)
	♥ 7:37pm Yetz: to me the most interesting prog is avant-prog - RIO type stuff - Henry Cow, Aksak Maboul, Art Zoyd, etc
	♥ 7:37pm ijustbcame: Anyone go to Progstock?
	♥ 7:38pm Mr. Pumpy: MAGMA, those folks are still at it. I've seen them several times, but only over the past 15 years or so. Still, so amazing!
	7:38pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: @Yetz: They use Wakeman doing that as a specific image in 'The Filth & the Fury' for instance. Tho I suppose ELP were~are spoken of more. Emerson stabbing keys with knives & such & their humor & aggression seems to me fairly in line with Punk in fact. Not to say ELP was never pretentious about knowing Classical music like no one else ever made or heard it...
	🤯 ♥ 7:38pm dday: To people my age, Prog was "alternative" to the pop or heavy metal bands that were on mainstream radio at the time (1970 - 1976 or so)
	7:39pm mic_a: @Rabbit 7:34 -- Yes! As a kid at the time, in the US at least, the 'enemy' that made punk necessary was California mellow rock -- The Eagles and their ilk.
	7:39pm Jackie G: why you say prawg?
	♥ 7:39pm ijustbcame: I'd like to see a show dedicated to prog from NJ.
	♥ 7:40pm Yetz: i'm pretty psyched to find out this program exists
	7:40pm JetBoy now of Astoria: To think before I didn’t like Tull or Yes - but together I don’t mind them. I can get thru them twice as fast.
	🤯 ♥ 7:40pm dday: Spocks Beard
	🤯 ♥ 7:41pm Handy Haversack: You have to get used to saying you're pretty progged, Yetz.
	7:41pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yet 7:37 - Avant is a good term. That stuff always seemed @ least cousins with Punk ?
	7:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: *Yetz 7:37
	♥ 7:42pm Kat in Chicago: I still love Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
	♥ 7:43pm ijustbcame: Zappa & the Mothers - We're only In It For The Money is Avant/RIO. Love that too.
	♥ 7:43pm Scott Williams: Y'all can definitely count on Dave Mandl to hit your RIO / ReR / Cutlerized Frithy Euro prog. I'm trying to do a 7" prog hour, highly limiting I'm afraid!
	7:43pm P-90: @Kat: Lamb is a brilliant work and one of the all-time original Prog classics
	7:43pm djsheilab: Woah…this cover! Brilliant.
	♥ 7:44pm Yetz: HH: Indeed!
	7:44pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Still barely begun to know the early Genesis. (How did that happen? Or not happen.) So far ...seems to me like a KingCrimson that hasn't reached puberty yet. Mothers were dADa all day long.
	♥ 7:44pm ijustbcame: There are so many prog nerds here, it's hard to keep up with the converstaion.
	♥ 7:44pm Scott Williams: Hiya Sheila! Can't believe I had to hit the dump button on a Genesis tune!
	♥ 7:44pm Yetz: Scott - I'm really enjoying it, this is a lot of stuff I've never heard before, thanks!
	🤯 ♥ 7:45pm dday: Between 1973 & 76 I saw Genesis a bunch of times. People can slag Phil Collins all they want BUT he was an incredible drummer
	♥ 7:45pm Yetz: didn't realize the 7" theme was going all week
	♥ 7:46pm Yetz: dday: Phil Collins is on one of my all time favorite records, Eno's "Another Green World"
	7:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Phil in fact belongs glued to a drumstool imho.
	7:46pm Dutch_62: Bazinga
	🤯 ♥ 7:47pm SeaCreature: Used to see RAEL spray painted in places and thought is there some metal reference I’m not aware of. Didn’t seem very Genesis to be tagging walls.
	🤯 ♥ 7:47pm dday: Zappa whole concept of Project / Object (all of his music being able to be arranged in endless combinations) is pretty proggy
	7:48pm P-90: Aloha @DJ Sheila B!
	🤯 ♥ 7:48pm ultradamno: Had to step away from the radio for a bit, how much Univers Zero did I miss?
	7:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I don't really have 'guilty pleasures' - but I think 'Brain Salad Surgery' is magnificent.
	7:49pm Dutch_62: Me sleepy.... 🥱..•●☆ weltrusten...
	7:50pm Jackie G: this song sounds like prog rock so I guess it must be prog rock.
	🤯 ♥ 7:50pm dday: @Yetz: Yessir. Last winter I listened top all things Eno (including collaborations & productions) I'll do it again soon
	♥ 7:51pm Franco Twinkie: For someone who wasn't really prog, Zappa was WAY prog. The MOI kicked all kinds of ass.
	♥ 7:51pm Mr. Pumpy: Anyone else used to get into that really early recording of Porcupine Tree at Shephard's Bush Empire from 2001? It was recorded through the board and it got around for a while. Insane production and playing!!! SO GOOD! Find it...here's the details: www.concertarchives.org...
	7:51pm Jackie G: when the band sings about the sun or sunshine chances are it's prog rock
	7:51pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Called Mothers for a reason. Yessir.
	♥ 7:52pm ijustbcame: Okay, somehow you're back to side 2 of TOTS, which is a double album
	♥ 7:52pm Mr. Pumpy: Fripp and Hall = YES! I love their output.
	♥ 7:52pm ijustbcame: Isn't A Passion Play a single album?
	7:53pm Jackie G: Eno's new album is b o r i n g.
	♥ 7:53pm Yetz: Jackie G: Or it's the Beatles
	♥ 7:54pm McGroovey: Darryl is sounding a bit off-center
	7:54pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Or it's SunshinePop ...actually.
	♥ 7:54pm coelacanth∅: if this prog show's going to fly there should be an average of 4-5 songs/show, no more
	7:55pm Jackie G: Adrian Belew is NOT b o r i n g.
	🤯 ♥ 7:55pm dday: Funny that RCA refused to release Hall's Sacred Songs disc until 3 years after it's creation. I think it's one of his best
	🤯 ♥ 7:55pm Will thee Sound Guy: Thank you for kicking off the Prog Scott!!!
	7:55pm djsheilab: This show is a triumph! Thanks Scott W.!
	🤯 ♥ 7:55pm chris in the redwoods: very fun. thanks, Scott!
	♥ 7:55pm Yetz: www.progarchives.com... 76% of people on ProgArchives think Zappa is Prog but they are wrong. I agree with the minority who say "Zappa was progressive, but not a prog artist.". That is the correct understanding.
	♥ 7:55pm Mr. Pumpy: HEARTBEAT! I saw this band at Town Hall. So amazing. Great show, Scott. thank you!!!!
	🤯 ♥ 7:56pm dday: I like that new track with Belew & Rundgren (called Puzzle)
	7:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Someone said Belew is 'vertical' & Fripp is 'horizontal' ...well, yeah.
	♥ 7:56pm Yetz: (just like you can have a punk-inspired attitude, but not work in the domain of punk music)
	♥ 7:56pm Aitch: Not prog per se, but still odd, Rundgren's new album, all collabs
	♥ 7:56pm _Ike_: Kavett Mandreeams?
	♥ 7:56pm Destroit: This show was pretty great
	♥ 7:56pm coelacanth∅: and Manzinera is diagonal
	♥ 7:57pm coelacanth∅: (sp)
	♥ 7:57pm Scott Williams: Yow, 1 hour sure do fly - thanks for indulging me, everyone! Dave Mandl takes over proper 1 week from tonight
	🤯 ♥ 7:57pm dday: @Aitch: yes. Like White Knight. I don't think there will ever be a totallt Tood disc anytime soon if it all. He's into working with others
	♥ 7:57pm Rich in Washington: I need to revisit Beat.
	♥ 7:57pm Rich in Washington: Thanks for a groovy show, Scott!
	♥ 7:57pm HyperDose: Thanks for drawing first prog blood, Scott!
	7:58pm P-90: Thanks @Scott!
	♥ 7:58pm Yetz: xclnt
	7:58pm TroyD8: Thanks Scott!
	🤯 ♥ 7:58pm chresti: Thanks Scott!
	7:58pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Zappa checks all the categorical Prawg boxes. Complexity, accomplishment, Fusions, aspiring to Progress the RawkaRollas, Concepts ...but he's cynical & funny.
	♥ 7:58pm Aitch: Great, Scott
	♥ 7:58pm DjLorraine: Thanks Scott
	♥ 7:58pm listener 126464: Thanks Scott!
	🤯 ♥ 7:58pm Handy Haversack: I feel like we really moved forward. Thanks, Scott!
	♥ 7:59pm ijustbcame: This showwas great!
	7:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ SW ~ MMMAAANNNDDDLLL
	7:59pm Will: We need this new show to be three hours, twice a week (OK, once).
	🤯 ♥ 7:59pm SeaCreature: And now we will pay for that awesomeness
	♥ 8:00pm coelacanth∅: Kate "Prog" Bush!
	♥ 8:00pm Webhamster Henry: Well, I never got "Recorder Solo [x]", so no BINGO for me this week.
	7:32pm Dr. Herndoctor: What’s the difference between Prog and Fusion? Like is Mahavishnu Fusion or Prog? Sorry for my lame question, thanks for any clarification!

It's Complicated with Dave Mandl: Playlist from October 17, 2022

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