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Favoriting April 11, 2022: Sasha Stiles, poet and artist, on her book "Technelegy"

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Today: Sasha Stiles, poet and artist, on her book "Technelegy"

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Technelegy, by Sasha Stiles, published by Black Spring Press Group

sashastiles.com and technelegy.xyz

• On Twitter: @sashastiles and @technelegy

The Franciscan monk helping the Vatican take on — and tame — AI (FT, April 6, 2022): "The Pope’s guest was Brad Smith, president of the US technology giant Microsoft... On the agenda was the topic of AI and, specifically, how humanity as a whole could benefit from this powerful technology, rather than being at its mercy... The Pope was concerned about how AI might be used to wage war in Ukraine, [and] what he could do to prevent the technology from ultimately destroying the fabric of humanity."

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Listener comments!

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listener james from westwood:

Evening, Mark and all!
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Handy Haversack:

Mark and all the Techyon drives! Getting a sauce up to simmer, but ears be on. Or "Mode Activate Standby disengaged"!
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ultradamno:

Mark! Poets that don't Techtonoet!
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melinda:

hi techtons
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PaulRobeson1920:

Good evening 1 & all

Howd’y
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tim from washington:

Hey Mark! Hey everybody!
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ultradamno:

BIG segment on trackers on John Oliver's show last night, he threatened Congress with info he legally obtained...
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DjLorraine:

I would like to attend
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Webhamster Henry:

Hi Mark & Friends!
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Bas NL:

Hi Mark! Technelegists!
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chresti:

Hi Marktonic!
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Webhamster Henry:

I was going to mention that John Oliver thing. It's Oliver-y - and actually lots worse than he reports - but a little consciousness raising is good!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Hello, Mark and techtroglodytes!
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PaulRobeson1920:

Yess!!! CYBERSPACE is where we r if you are reading this

Cyberspace-the place Our consciousness goes when we use the internet
  6:07pm
David in London:

Evening Mark and all Technoids.
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brycepunk1:

Cooking supper and listening to Tectonic. I am happy :)
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PaulRobeson1920:

“Cyberspace” The place we (our consciousness) resides when we use the internet- Neil Postman

In so many words
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herb.nyc:

Mark Hurst, USandA poet laureate, 2023

I like Ali G’s word TECHMOLOGY

Aside- from a recent nytimes Brian X Chen’s TECH FIX, excerpt-

To report a scammy text, AT&T, Verizon and T-Mobile offer the same number to forward the messages to: 7726. After forwarding, the carrier asks for the phone number that the message came from.
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Mark Hurst:

Hi all, thanks for joining in!
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Mark Hurst:

@Handy, thanks so much for the books! Just picked them up from the cubby.
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Webhamster Henry:

I like drawing working QR codes.
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Bas NL:

Anary.. Binalog.
  6:17pm
gauche knee:

Death is optional…go on…
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melinda:

I feel like this just took a weird turn with those two sentences
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tim from washington:

Techtonic and Music for Mind Control overlap again.
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coelacanth∅:

which 2, the one's that are not bullshit?
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melinda:

@tim haha
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dale:

where's micah when you need him?
  6:19pm
gauche knee:

@tim & Micah…ha, very
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melinda:

@coel actually the turn happened immediately at "death is optional"
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Jim the Poet:

I die all the time
  6:19pm
gauche knee:

*Melinda , interesting interrogations
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karlward:

Jim the Poet wins this round of comments
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Handy Haversack:

Mark Hurst: oh, good! Glad you found them!
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Mark Hurst:

@Jim thanks for joining us! Two poets with us tonight.
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Tofu Kills People:

Is this The Onion?
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coelacanth∅:

"post-human"...
that has nothing to do with any human that has or will ever be alive.
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Handy Haversack:

I think formally I still count as a poet. I get invited to the union meetings. And I damn sure paid my dues.
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Bas NL:

Zero, zero, zero. You don't love me anymore now.
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Jim the Poet:

Well, she seems like a way better poet than me
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Webhamster Henry:

I do a lot of NLP poetic stuff too.
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coelacanth∅:

melinda, one could speculate that one's energy (which is usually called something else ie spirit) continues on after the body dies. i don't think this is completely unrealistic; but yeah, some sort of death is still inevitable.
not an option.
  6:24pm
Danny in Poughkeepsie:

Hello Mark. Thank you again for you bring to WFMU
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coelacanth∅:

Bas haha
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tim from washington:

I like hearing about Sasha's process.
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Mark Hurst:

@Danny thanks
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karlward:

If this natural language processing poetry is interesting to you, check out the work of Allison Parrish: www.decontextualize.com
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_Ike_:

Twas brillig, and the slithy Zuckerbergs
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe
All Mimsy were the shady data brokers
And the mome raths were outraged
  6:26pm
Ed:

Fascinating project, great conversation - learning a lot!
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Fredericks:

Don't I remember a guest the set up a generator that wrote in the style of various artists?
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Mark Hurst:

@_Ike_ good one
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Webhamster Henry:

There are a BUNCH of poets doing generated poetry and it has a history. muse.jhu.edu...
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frito_:

mind = blown
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coelacanth∅:

Sasha will be spared after the takeover
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karlward:

Also, my former classmate Ross Goodwin does a bunch of interesting stuff in this realm: rossgoodwin.com
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tim from washington:

@Webhamster - What is NLP?
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karlward:

NLP natural language processing
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Mark Hurst:

@karlward thanks - hadn't heard of Ross - will take a look (after the show)
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karlward:

NLP: using computers to parse written/spoken language into data structures / programs
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PaulRobeson1920:

NLP Nero Linguistic Programing
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Mark Hurst:

@Webham thanks for the pointer & good point
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dale:

that was borderline porn.
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coelacanth∅:

"generated poetry" has the potential to be very interesting... like algorithmic music.
  6:30pm
Sam:

Sorry but I have to object on principle to using AI when you can’t think of what to write.
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karlward:

PaulRobeson1920: nope, this is the NLP we're talking about: en.wikipedia.org...
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ultradamno:

I had a lot of luck with dahlia's myself, insofar as none of them have ever attacked me.
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ultradamno:

There's a six hour video of AI generated jazz on you tube. It's beat.
  6:31pm
Dean:

James Merrill's The Changing Light at Sandover is a monumental poem on the order of 500 pages written with the assistance of a Ouija board.
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Mark Hurst:

@Dean the Sandover poem came up in last week's interview
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Webhamster Henry:

@karlwad jumped in! But I also work with audio as well as words. Meanwhile check out this old Techtonic show with ME becasue I always post about ME: www.wfmu.org...

and the show with Jamie Brew from Botnik:
wfmu.org...
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tim from washington:

@Sam - I find it very interesting. I relate it to John Cage setting up parameters for chance creations or Burrough's cut-ups.
  6:32pm
Dean:

I missed that!
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Bas NL:

"Don't turn off your computer. Poetry forthcoming."
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PaulRobeson1920:

He he he he

I wonder if Sasha has ever GListened to Night Owl?
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Webhamster Henry:

I did a show in 1993 which did a real time continuous video treatment of a poem by David Cale, read in real time by the Amiga's internal voice.
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coelacanth∅:

it's a good thing we can create computers to write poetry, so we no longer have to have thinking creative people.
...'been phasing them out anyway.
  6:34pm
Sam:

I think it’s very dangerous to hand over this part of our lives to machines. Just because they come up with original eloquent stuff doesn’t mean we should cede our own creativity to them. Pretty soon nobody will be able to write creatively without their help. That’s terrifying.
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karlward:

Mark Hurst: I have to say that I love how you engage with viewpoints you disagree with. I learned a long time ago (while studying English literature) that some ideas can be fertile for inquiry/discussion/understanding even when they are ideas you disagree with. You're doing a great thing here.
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melinda:

@Sam I know what you mean
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ultradamno:

They used to do a thing on Vice Daily on HBO where a critic would evaluate AI generated art. I always thought it was flawed because the critic clearly knew and brought his bias to bear.
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Mark Hurst:

@karlward that's nice of you to say, thanks.. and yes, I think it's important to spotlight a variety of perspectives!
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Handy Haversack:

But the only creativity in the machine-generated text is what the human reader brings with them -- the machines aren't stealing jobs. Anything that stimulates the human brain toward active and engaged interaction with creative and noninstrumental language is a good.
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ultradamno:

I'm not necessarily saying the critic would have been different had he not known but the exercise would have been more interesting in a blind test.
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Webhamster Henry:

There are lots of rule based poetry things that way predate machines doing it. Or actually, DO have machines doing it like this latin verse machine from 1845: alfredgilletttrust.org...
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Handy Haversack:

Try using your poetry reel to get a tryout on a philosophers soccer team. Just try. There are no jobs out there.
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PaulRobeson1920:

“Reach out your hand, if your cup be empty
If your cup is full, may it be again…
Let it be known there is a fountain
That was not made by the hands of men” - Robert Hunter
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chris in the redwoods:

it would be fun to create a random parameter in the NLP rules engine to slightly or radically change the accuracy of the processing. that might lead to fun/interesting things happening. that said, i know very very little about how possible that would be to do.

also, hello, Mark and everyone. i'm enjoying the conversation.
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Mark Hurst:

@chris hi, and yes good idea
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Poetry you can trust®!
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Webhamster Henry:

@Chris it's a parameter called "the temperature" in the transformer based AIs.
  6:39pm
Dean:

Kenneth Koch's When the Sun Tries to Go On is a book-length poem, utterly hilarious, that occasionally sounds like the inverse of what Stiles describes. She finds remarkable the capacity for a machine to generate indicia of intention. Koch's book is remarkable for producing sequences of words on the page that seem divorced from intention.

Re: NLP and humanities, this is a fun start of a discussion: https://critinq.wordpress.com/2019/03/31/computational-literary-studies-a-critical-inquiry-online-forum/
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chris in the redwoods:

ooh, thanks, Henry!
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tim from washington:

@Sam - I definitely agree with you there. I do like how Sasha utilized the technology with intention as an experiment.
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Bas NL:

All AI's are currently busy.. we will connect you to a live poet.
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Mark Hurst:

@Bas heh
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chris in the redwoods:

that made me lol, Bas. :)
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Ken From Hyde Park:

The secret to rhyming is all in the timing.
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G:

paranoid android?
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coelacanth∅:

are you calling a robot a "her"?
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melinda:

I heard about Bina48 I think from one of those NPR-based sciencey podcasts
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Webhamster Henry:

This used to be free 8^( philosopherai.com
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Mark Hurst:

@Ken good one. to quote a wise commenter above, we are poets that don't Techtonoet! (thanks, ultradamno)
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coelacanth∅:

this world is irreparably ill.
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chresti:

Nite Owl can be so profound and nonsensical
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PaulRobeson1920:

“There is no place in American society for a poet” 1971
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G:

@coel: The AI self-identifies as a F :-)
  6:43pm
Daybreak is Thinking Thoughts 💭:

Ironically, I really need to grade 14 short stories, three short fiction collections, and six nonlinear short stories from my creative writing class this evening and tonight. Many of them chose to also include artwork or a curated playlist to be enjoyed in conjunction with their work.

It’s pretty awesome that creativity is breaking out everywhere!
I will definitely catch the show in the archives.

I will actually post it for my creative writing class on Wednesday as they are in the beginning of their poetry. Currently they’re reading for 40 min and writing for 40 min with lunch in the middle. They get to pick what they do and when.
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Webhamster Henry:

I've wanted to get more poetry into the Night Owl, but Dave Amels is kind of done tinkering with it.
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coelacanth∅:

G haha... i guess that's where we're at.
  6:44pm
castor:

It doesn’t feel like anything because AI cannot feel.
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Fredericks:

Post-Human descendants? Mind Files? I'm getting the creeps.
  6:45pm
Daybreak is Thinking Thoughts 💭:

Don’t you have access to some magical programming portal into the program, secret or public, Webhampster Henry?
  6:45pm
Dayffid:

Hi all
  6:46pm
castor:

I’m of the heideggerian embodied consciousness camp, AI has to grow up in an embodied world to get anywhere close to consciousness.
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PaulRobeson1920:

@coelacantho! That my friend is an untruth

We may live in a sick society, but the world is OK baby.
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coelacanth∅:

my sister refers to the gps voice as "she" also...correcting my sister is futile.
it's hopeless.
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ultradamno:

Well, Kraftwerk got inducted into the Rock Hall, you can't take that from the robots!
  6:47pm
Dayffid:

I’m with you Sam, something about that interview did not sit well with me
  6:48pm
Dayffid:

I say we stick with TechMology instead. Booyakasha!
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ParUbi:

I love that about this show! Multi-perspectival!
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Handy Haversack:

Very interesting talk, Mark. Thanks to you and Sasha. I have been pulled away from keyboard a lot and most of my thoughts on this are too long and rambling for comments board anyway. But at least to say that K8, who's a working teaching artist, has been thinking of ways to teach AI-inflected art (e.g., recent program at the Park Avenue Armory) to NYC HS kids. It's a pretty interesting vein. And she's been wrestling with writing about that patient-calming seal, too.
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chresti:

You can choose the gender with GPS, also language.
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coelacanth∅:

ParUbi, not really. Sam was speaking truth, but only certain perspectives are acceptable i guess.
welcome to 1984.
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PaulRobeson1920:

The underpinnings of the universe are good and wholesome and guided by an innate wisdom and music and LOVE
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Webhamster Henry:

I was doing an AI story podcast for a little while to test out podcasting software: www.mixcloud.com...
  6:51pm
castor:

Make death optional again, just like the ancient Egyptians were able to do!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

There actually are three kinds of people in the world: Those who understand math and those who don't.
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ultradamno:

By the way, I guess Musk is out on his Twitter takeover.

So, the coveted checkmarks are no longer for sale.
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mespr:

Technology is our child. Like it or not. Thank you Sasha. Your work is fantastic.
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chresti:

I bet he was in a hot tub!
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Bas NL:

Can't do... My mobile only runs at 10 MLoPs. (Mega Lines of Poetry per second)
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PaulRobeson1920:

Scan your buttocks! LOL
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tim from washington:

"Death is not optional" sounds like some hackneyed Type A personality catch phrase.
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melinda:

@tim it does!
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chresti:

Isn't that like scientology's thing?
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Rich in Washington:

That's literally the plotline of the TV show Upload and it's hilarious.
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PaulRobeson1920:

Oh jezus!!! Fun?!
  6:53pm
castor:

Who will rule this posthumous cloud kingdom?
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tim from washington:

Who's got a hot tub?
  6:54pm
Dean:

Eternal life would give me the bandwidth to memorize Finnegans Wake.
  6:54pm
Dayffid:

I have a confession. I’m actually a robot
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Webhamster Henry:

Digital replication is a trope . www.google.com...
  6:54pm
P-90:

You’re talking about “vastening”?
  6:54pm
Sam:

Even if they could do that it wouldn’t be you. Any more than your genetically identical twin is you.
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Rich in Washington:

@Dayffid: are you the only robot in the village?
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tim from washington:

It's ok, Dayffid. We were well aware of it. We still love you as you are.
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chresti:

Algorithms Revolt!
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ultradamno:

Here's the thing, while actually dying, the idea that a program doing an impersonation of me will still exist would be no comfort. The narcissism that would take.
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Webhamster Henry:

AI Gods will demand sacrifices, because that's what gods want.
  6:56pm
castor:

This is also similar to that Choice OS cult on Music of Mind Control. God is just something you need to download and install in your soul.
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coelacanth∅:

and colonizing mars and self-driving vehicles makes sense...
about as much as computer-generated "art".
total insanity.
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PaulRobeson1920:

Postman wrote about this… a technological divinity requires the trivialization/demotion of all others…
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Handy Haversack:

Thanks again, Mark!
  6:57pm
P-90:

The idea has never been that “death is optional”, the idea has always been that uploading your consciousness to a digital host will allow your consciousness to continue after the life of your physical body.
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Bas NL:

Thanks Mark and Sascha!
  6:57pm
Dayffid:

Science has always been just another religion.
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tim from washington:

Good show, Mark! Good discussions.
  6:57pm
castor:

It’s my belief that this is the future medieval theocracy we are headed for.
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PaulRobeson1920:

In Technopoly 1992- The surrender of culture to tech
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melinda:

@PaulRobeson Postman had great insights, prescient
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ultradamno:

Work Pray Code? Is there a How Her Got Her Groove Back?
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Rich in Washington:

Thanks, Mark!
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PaulRobeson1920:

Yes! @melinda
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Handy Haversack:

(K8's working like mad but keeps muttering, "That's something I want to write a play about ... *that's* something I want to write a play about ..." &c. &c.)
  6:58pm
castor:

Thank you Mark!!!
  6:58pm
Sam:

Silicon Valley is the latest regurgitation of the arrogance of mortals who think they can defeat death. God will punish them with plagues of sea level rise, earthquakes and wildfires.
  6:58pm
Rolando:

What ! I missed the show. Ahh. Sorry I overslept. 😀
  6:58pm
gauche knee:

Love the talk with Sasha! been peering into the useful applications of AI in patient care & ethical implications. This gave much to ponder! 🙏🏾
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Analog Nights:

Thanks Mark
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Bas NL:

If (god==DJ) then
  6:58pm
P-90:

Thanks! @Sasha Stiles and Mark Hurst
  6:58pm
Dayffid:

Castor is right. I have seen it
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melinda:

thnks Mark!
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Webhamster Henry:

The Replika App tries to be your friend, but I found that it was really boring.
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PaulRobeson1920:

Thank you, Mark & Sasha! Peace & LoVe ya’ll & thank you WFMU
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(Murakami Whywolf))):

Well, there's a final limitation of the heat death of the universe, and of proton decay, but all one needs to believe in order to believe in uploading is to be a pure materialist, which I think is correct and I'm sorry not everyone believes-in.

Here, 'materialist' doesn't mean 'wanting stuff', it means believing in a completely naturalistic explanation for the universe, nothing but space and mass-energy and the forces governing them.
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Handy Haversack:

No, Sam, that's OUR punishment for not stopping this for the sake of our convenience.
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chris in the redwoods:

thanks, Mark!
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listener 126464:

Thank you Mark.
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chresti:

Thanks Markl LMAO!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Jim the AI poetry programmer. Thanks, Mark & Sasha.
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Dayffid:

Handy - that’s very accurate
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Dano59:

the Holy Father meets Microserfs?
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Webhamster Henry:

Thanks Mark & Sasha -- this is clearly my kinds of exploration.
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chresti:

Ha Dano!
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coelacanth∅:

yeah "ai" is good for patient care.
...well, cost-effective. i guess that's the bottom line.
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castor:

Buonasera Arb’n All
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Franco Twinkie:

MARK IS RIGHT! We tried to use a Google app earlier and I felt like my brain was leaking out of my ears.
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coelacanth∅:

Sam i just went from being in total agreement with you to not...unless "god" and "punish" are metaphors.
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(((Murakami Whywolf):

May all your deaths be little ones.
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